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Q: In the first book of The Pearl series, The Ring of
Five Dragons, the spiritually-based Kundalan society is introduced
as one that has endured 100 years of oppression by the technologically
superior V'ornn invaders and is in a crisis of faith. How have the
Kundalan managed to retain as much of their identity, culture, and
spirit of resistance as they have after a whole century?
A: How does any culture manage such a difficult task? By complying
on the surface, while resisting in as many clandestine ways as it
can manage. On the other hand, the Kundalan have been seriously debilitated,
not only by the V'ornn, but by their own overweening thirst for knowledge
and power, which took them away from the spiritual teachings of the
great goddess Miina. In fact, it would not be too strong a statement
to say that they would never have succumbed to the V'ornn invasion
in the first place if they hadn't already been spiritually compromised.
Q: How far had the Kundalan come in terms of their culture's own
technological progress? Was their relative lack of technological development
a matter of choice or a lack of opportunity?
A: Without giving too much away, the Kundalan had made quite
a good deal of headway in the area of technology. So much so, in fact,
that technology became a threat to the ruling theocracy, which feared
that scientific progress would negate the spiritual influence of the
goddess Miina. This fear doesn't seem too paranoid when you consider
that the Gyrgon, the V'ornn technomage caste, decided to do away with
its own religion and persecuted its priests to extinction.
Q: What made the V'ornn so brutal and militaristic? Is their caste
system a cause or effect of this? Is the caste system or their brutality,
or both, a result of being exiled from their home world?
A: Here we have something of the Chicken and the Egg dilemma.
In the universe I created - as in real life - nothing's so clear-cut.
I think, though, it's likely that the V'ornn society became increasingly
militaristic because of the threats of attack and invasion by other
races, most notably the Centophennni. When they escaped the destruction
of their home world everything changed. They became brutal, cunning,
remorseless as a form of self-preservation. But in order to do so,
they had to turn their backs on their religion, their spiritual side
- their humanity.
Q: In what ways have the Kundalan people attempted to maintain
or regain control over their religious beliefs during/despite the
V'ornn oppression?
A: I think, in reality, the Kundalan people have done very
little. In this, the V'ornn have been quite successful. They even
created a new religion that has seduced many Kundalan away from the
teachings of Miina. The real struggle lies with the Ramahan. And it
is here, within the last remaining Abbeys, that the battle for the
soul of the Kundalan people is being fought.
Q: In The Pearl series, magic and science clash on an epic
scale and yet the juxtaposition shows that neither is inherently good
or evil. Is it simply the people using magic or science who give them
meaning?
A: To a great extent, yes. But there's another, more important
side to the coin, one that in many ways is the core idea on which
the entire series rests. Neither magic nor science is an end in and
of itself. Instead, each is a means to an end, and neither can be
entirely successful without the other. Both societies -- the Kundalan
and the V'ornn - are, in their present state, incomplete. Each is
cut off from an important side of its culture, and it is the epic
saga of the two groping toward being whole that I'm telling.
Q: If technology and spirituality ceased to "clash against one
another" would the two be able to coexist in a harmonious way?
A: Oh, yes, most assuredly so. And in a very real sense, the
journey of both Kundalan and V'ornn that I chronicle is the journey
of every human being to integrate inside him or her the rational and
the irrational, the spiritual and the technological, to live up to
his or her full potential, which I think is the struggle we're all
engaged in.
Q: Some people might say that the clash of the technologically
advanced V'ornn oppressors and the spiritual Kundalan society and
the way that the American culture clashes with the ancient traditions
of the Middle East are parallels. Do you agree?
A: I don't think so. It seems to me that the enmity between
the West and Middle East is not one of culture, but of religion, extremism,
and economics. After all, if it weren't for oil, I doubt we'd be interested
in the Middle East at all. Actually, in many ways, the cultures are
not so incompatible. After all, we tend to forget that the majority
of those in the Middle East are peace-loving and have many of the
same values we do. They're as appalled and sickened as we are by the
violence of extremists.
Q: Many of your fans continue to ask about your earlier novels,
specifically The Ninja series. Do you see any common elements
or themes within The Ninja series and The Pearl series?
A: Well, on the surface, I suppose there wouldn't seem to be
any similarities, but it would be a mistake to come to that conclusion.
There exists in Nicholas Linnear the dichotomy of his spiritual nature
and his violent nature. Do the two negate one another? Of course not.
However, his struggle is to come to terms with the two disparate elements
inside him, to try and set a course that will reconcile the two. Isn't
this the same journey Riane -- half-Kundalan, half-V'ornn -- is on?
Q: Do you plan to revisit the adventure of Nicholas Linnear?
A: Never say never.
Q: It is intriguing that after the Khagggun Kurgan Stogggul brutally
rapes Eleana, a Kundalan for whom he feels utter disdain, he then
becomes completely overwhelmed by love and lust for her. Kurgan embarks
on incredible journeys and goes to great efforts to find and recapture
her. Does he really think he's got a chance at winning her love in
return or is this just blind obsession?
A: Kurgan is totally inward-looking. It would never occur to
him to wonder what Eleana feels for him. His only impetus is what
he wants, and he will go to any lengths to get it. As to his initially
raping her, of course he did. Both he and Anon fell in love with her
the moment they saw her. For him, that love -- the love for a Kundalan
- was as intolerable as it was undeniable. So he raped her, satisfying
both his lust and his urge for violence. But the rape wasn't the end
of it, as he supposed. It was the beginning of his lifelong obsession
with Eleana.
Q: Eleana's son, Sahor, who is the offspring resulting from the
rape, has been caused to age from infant to age sixteen in a matter
of days by the use of Gyrgon technomagic. Why was it necessary to
advance the boy's age so rapidly and by so many years?
A: Nith Sahor, who was fatally wounded in his battle with Nith
Batoxxx, used Gyrgon technomancy to insert himself into Eleana's baby
and, thus, save himself. In doing so, he gave up being Nith as well
as being wholly V'ornn. Like Riane, he's part V'ornn, part Kundalan.
Since he has plans for the immediate future, he needed to "grow himself'
in order to be effective.
Q: Kurgan observes a group of Khagggun standing guard over a straggly
line of half-naked children who stand shivering, silent, and fearful.
It is explained that the children are "the repellent mixed-race progeny
of the thousands of Kundalan females who had been raped by Khagggun
packs". Kurgan had heard rumors of recombinant gene re-sequencing
experiments being performed on the children by the Genomatekks at
Gyron behest. What are the Genomatekks hoping to discover? Or is this
simply cruel and inhumane experimentation with no real purpose?
A: No, the experiments have a very specific - albeit desperate
- purpose, but if I were to tell you what that was, it would spoil
the coming parts of the story.
Q: What occurs at the Temple of Mnemonics?
A: If I were a Gyrgon I could tell you, but then I'd have to
kill you.
Q: The series as a whole raises interesting questions relevant
to gender roles. The character Annon starts out in the first book
as a young man, but spends the majority of the series inhabiting a
young woman's brain and body, even as he remains in love with another
woman. How much of human behavior is gender-specific? And to what
extent are our ideas of what's appropriate for each gender actually
arbitrary conventions?
A: I feel uncomfortable with the word "appropriate" as it's
attached to gender behavior. You do your thing and, as long as it
physically hurts no one, including yourself, it's strictly your business.
I don't pass judgment on how others see themselves, and I don't agree
with those who do, because what they're doing is saying, "I know what's
best. Do as I do, or else."
Q: Both the Kundalan and the V'ornn societies seem to have standard
roles for males and females, with the rigidly hierarchical V'ornn
having more trouble with exceptions. Ironically, the V'ornn rulers,
the mysterious and secretive Gyrgon, are themselves hermaphrodites
- gender ambiguity personified - and operate under a different set
of rules from the rest of V'ornn society. What does the author think
about the value and/or the limitations of assigned gender roles?
A: Interesting question. Who assigns gender roles? Society
as a whole, or the more conservative and rigid members of that society?
Why should roles be assigned to gender in the first place? It wasn't
in ancient Crete, the last of the great complimentary societies. But
that was before the warlike, male God-dominated tribes swept down
from the northern Steppes, conquering as they came, changing both
culture and attitudes.
Q: What is the value of esoteric knowledge, as represented by The
Pearl, and what are the potential gains or limitations of the human-like
beings to perfect themselves with the aid of such knowledge?
A: I think the desire for knowledge is universal, but the greater
the knowledge, the greater the danger. If knowledge is power - and
it is - then absolute knowledge has the insidious power to corrupt
absolutely. This is what happened in the case of the Ramahan and The
Pearl.
Q: The V'ornn as a culture are very much like Nazis, considering
the subjugated Kundalan to be their equivalent of sub-human, yet there
are a number of examples of individual sympathetic V'ornn. Even Annon's
former friend, the scheming Kurgan, is pitiful at times. Do you believe
in absolute evil, or do you feel that almost anyone can be redeemed?
On a larger level, do you think an evil culture has to be swept away,
or can it be reformed?
A: I don't, as a rule, believe in absolutes. Having said that,
I don't necessarily think that anyone or any culture can be redeemed.
I can't imagine anything redeemable in the Nazis or in any extremist
society. But if there is no choice but to fight them, they only bring
it on themselves. Ideas are peculiarly powerful things to human beings.
You only have to read Nietzsche to understand that. But talking of
"sweeping away" a culture smacks of extermination, a concept I personally
find abhorrent. As an example, we won the war without exterminating
every Nazi. And now we're back again to ideas. Once the idea of Nazism
died with its leaders, the desired end was achieved.
Q: There's a complex romantic triangle involving Annon's secret
Kundalan mother, Giyan, her former V'ornn captor, Rekkk (who is now
a figure from Kundalan legend, the Nawatir, and no longer physically
V'ornn), and Konara (priestess) Inggres. In a sense, each of these
people is loving someone they shouldn't. What is being said about
the power of love and our inability to control it?
A: Well, I think the very nature of love - the thing that makes
it singular and so powerful - is that it's totally uncontrollable.
Love tears you asunder and you don't necessarily go back to the way
you were. Love is usually depicted as something that's entirely good,
but we all know - perhaps have even experienced - that loving someone
can have terrible - sometimes disastrous - consequences. One of the
themes explored in The Mistress of The Pearl is the many different
and unexpected effects love can have.
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